Legislature(1997 - 1998)

02/25/1998 01:35 PM Senate JUD

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       SB 291 - LIV. WILLS/ANATOMICAL GIFTS/PATIENT CARE                       
                                                                               
MR. RALPH BENNETT, staff to Senator Robin Taylor, presented SB 291             
as a major revision to Alaska Statute title 18, chapter 12                     
regarding rights of the terminally ill. MR. BENNETT said this bill             
is intended to offer Alaskans some assurance that their wishes will            
be carried out with regard to medical treatment and life sustaining            
procedures. He said that last year in the course of hearing a bill             
on organ and tissue donation, it became clear to the Legislature               
that many incapacitated persons are not having their wishes carried            
out. MR. BENNETT stated that current law makes a living will                   
operable only when a patient is declared terminal. This is a                   
diagnosis many doctors are reluctant to make.                                  
                                                                               
MR. BENNETT cited a 1995 study that found doctors still                        
misunderstand or ignore  patients' requests with the result that               
large numbers of people still die alone, in pain, and tethered to              
machines. MR. BENNETT said this law explicitly gives each and every            
competent adult the right to make fundamental decisions regarding              
his or her medical treatment, including the right to prepare an                
advance directive and to accept or refuse treatment.                           
                                                                               
MR. BENNETT stated that the advance directive is operative only in             
the case that the declarant has been medically determined to be in             
a serious medical condition. The bill defines "medically                       
determined" and "serious medical condition". He said an Oregon law             
was the model for the bill and provides for personal decisions to              
be communicated on a variety of situations. MR. BENNETT explained              
that  section eight of the bill sets out when life support may be              
withdrawn from a person without an advanced directive and section              
seven clarifies that nothing in this bill is intended to condone               
mercy killing or assisted suicide. MR. BENNETT concluded that this             
bill will take Alaska into the 21st century, allowing individuals              
to make decisions regarding health care with more assurance that               
those wishes will be carried out in the event they are unable to               
speak for themselves.                                                          
                                                                               
MS. BRIDGETTE CARNEY, a medical ethicist form Oregon, said the bill            
closely resembles the Oregon law. She claimed this law is working              
well in Oregon, where every patient entering a hospital has the                
opportunity to fill out an advance directive. This document can be             
filled out individually or with assistance and is helpful in                   
communicating a patient's wishes, as well as fostering                         
communication between patients, their doctors and their families.              
MS. CARNEY stressed the fact that a patient's verbal wishes always             
take precedence over an advance directive, allowing a patient to               
change his or her mind while they remain competent.                            
                                                                               
MS. VIRGINIA PERI  testified via teleconference from Anchorage and             
said she was the impetus for the bill, after an attempt to file an             
Oregon declaration with her attorney, who said it was not                      
applicable due to the necessity, in Alaska, of being diagnosed as              
terminal. MS. PERI indicated that the word terminal is too broad               
and needs to be changed. She cited other portions of the Alaska law            
that she feels are too vague or otherwise inadequate. She asked                
that the committee please accept this bill, which answers all her              
questions and takes the state into the 20th century.                           
                                                                               
MS. DEBORAH RANDALL, an Anchorage attorney, said the bill's sponsor            
statement was well written and exactly expresses her wishes. She               
noted that the current law does not have the necessary meat on its             
bones and is much too broad. She said the Oregon bill was the                  
product of much thought on the part of its creators and provides a             
big step forward for Alaska law. She mentioned that current Alaska             
law does not allow the withdrawal of life support by an agent of               
the patient and the health care power of attorney provision needs              
revision.                                                                      
                                                                               
SENATOR PARNELL asked MS. RANDALL if she could distinguish this                
from assisted suicide legislation. MS. RANDALL replied that the                
bill states that is does not condone mercy killing or assisted                 
suicide. She suggested people read the categories carefully, these             
assure assistance to people who do not want to be kept alive, not              
those who want help to die. She explained the case that originated             
the concept of living wills.                                                   
                                                                               
SENATOR PARNELL asked about the term "permanently unconscious" on              
page 13, line 4. He gave an example of a friend who had been in a              
coma for nine months and later recovered and asked how the law                 
would interpret this term. MS. RANDALL responded it would require              
a complete lack of awareness, confirmed by a neurological opinion,             
without a reasonable possibility of a return to consciousness.                 
SENATOR PARNELL asked if the definition of a reasonable possibility            
had ever been litigated in Oregon but MS. RANDALL nor MS. CAREY                
were aware of any such case. MS. CAREY did explain that medical                
tests for brain activity would be factors in this determination.               
She said there is an established time frame in which to withdraw               
food and water in the case where a person is in a persistent                   
vegetative or unconscious state. She remarked also that the                    
assessment of higher brain functioning or cognitive ability vs.                
only autonomic brain stem functioning is important.                            
                                                                               
MS. RANDALL commented that the declaration breaks out different                
circumstances and allows the individual to decide what course of               
treatment they would want in different situations. SENATOR PARNELL             
said he agrees with the principle but says this leads to assisted              
suicide if it's taken a bit further.                                           
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR voiced his belief of the difference between an                 
affirmative act of putting something in someone as opposed to                  
withdrawing something and allowing nature to take its course. He               
said he has no intention of this bill allowing any hastening of the            
natural process.                                                               
                                                                               
MS. CARNEY added that this bill applies only to a competent person             
who makes their wishes known in advance as to what they would want             
should they become incompetent. She stressed it only goes into                 
effect when they are incompetent. She differentiated assisted                  
suicide as an act of a physician to intentionally end someone's                
life. She said this bill only allows the withholding or withdrawal             
of treatment.                                                                  
                                                                               
DR. TOM BUELLER, Professor of Philosophy at the University of                  
Alaska Anchorage, concurred with the remarks of MS. CARNEY                     
regarding the value of individual self-determination. He said this             
makes the bill dissimilar to assisted suicide in the regard that it            
is based on the notion of the right to refuse unwanted medical                 
treatment. The advance directive allows incompetent patients to                
decide what they specifically want in a broad range of conditions.             
DR. BUELLER says this is helpful for doctors.                                  
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR asked DR. BUELLER about changing the term "serious             
medical condition" to "qualifying medical condition" and DR.                   
BUELLER said he believes the term "serious" is more helpful,                   
although he is not a physician. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR said it may simply             
be semantics.                                                                  
                                                                               
MS. MELBA COOKE, a case manager for Acquired Immune Deficiency                 
Syndrome (AIDS) patients, indicated that living wills are often                
overridden even in cases where the patient clearly had no chance of            
recovery.  In many of these instances, life support has prolonged              
these patients' lives and MS. COOKE called this cruel and unusual.             
She recounted losing her husband to AIDS and said, as a widow and              
an AIDS advocate, she strongly sees the need for this type of                  
document.                                                                      
                                                                               
MR. JENS SAAKVITNE, representing Life Alaska transplant team,                  
clarified that all fifty states recognize brain death as death and             
that it is vastly different from a permanent vegetative or                     
unconscious state. MR. SAAKVITNE said the transplant teams of                  
Alaska strongly support this bill, which would make things easier              
for families. He said there are a few revisions he would like to               
see, including a provision to allow the donation of any needed                 
organ or tissue to appear before the list of organs or tissues and,            
on page eight, a provision allowing a designated doctor or the                 
appropriate Alaska tissue bank to perform the donation procedure.              
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR asked if the designation on page eight was even                
necessary and MR. SAAKVITNE replied that in all his years of                   
experience it has never been used, and pointed out that the                    
attending physician is prohibited by law from removing organs or               
tissues.                                                                       
                                                                               
MR. RICHARD WILLIAMS, a 70 year old man in good health, testified              
from Anchorage that he was not concerned so much with death, as to             
how he dies. He said this bill address the fears of seniors                    
regarding how they will pass out of this world.                                
                                                                               
MR. MATT ANDERSON, representing the Department of Health and Social            
Services, spoke in support of the bill that he said will provide               
clarity for patients and health care providers. He suggested three             
minor changes to the bill. First the change from "serious medical              
condition" to "qualifying medical condition" which he says will                
clarify, not change, the bill by guiding the reader back to the                
bill itself for definition. Second, MR. ANDERSON asked for the                 
insertion of "where available" before medically determined on page             
13, line 2, to allow the bill to be more easily implemented in                 
small communities. Third, he suggested that on page 10, the                    
paragraphs defining "terminal" condition may apply to trauma                   
patients. He said in these cases doctors should be able to make                
decisions without having to first contact family members. He urged             
this section be clarified to reflect it applies only to non-                   
emergency situations.                                                          
                                                                               
SENATOR PARNELL commented that he understood the difference between            
qualifying and serious but said the lack of clarity comes from the             
interpretation of sections A, B, C, and D, and not in the phrase               
"serious medical condition" itself. SENATOR PARNELL said he would              
like to keep the word serious in, and have the bill apply only in              
serious situations, not in qualifying situations. MR. ANDERSON                 
responded that the strengths of the bill far outweigh this                     
consideration.                                                                 
                                                                               
Ms. CARNEY pointed out that page four, line 23 -25 states if food              
and water are refused, "death will probably result". She thinks                
perhaps "will result" is more clear. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR  agreed,                  
saying the word probably is not appropriate.                                   
                                                                               
SENATOR ELLIS expressed thanks to MS. PERI and CHAIRMAN TAYLOR,                
saying he had considered introducing the bill but asked CHAIRMAN               
TAYLOR to do it for the good of the legislation itself. He                     
commended Mr. AMBROSE's work on this issue, as well as the effort              
of CHAIRMAN TAYLOR to move this bill through the process.                      
                                                                               
MS. PERI commented that she and DEBORAH RANDALL had debated the                
bill at length and find the term serious more explanatory and                  
believe it will be more reasonable for the lay person reading and              
signing the document. DEBORAH RANDALL agreed that they had worked              
closely with the bill drafter on this language, and it was designed            
to correlate with the bill passed last year. Regarding the                     
physician designation, MS. RANDALL said it is strictly an option               
and, if it is not chosen, the default is to an appropriate Alaska              
tissue/organ bank. She said most of her clients are not interested             
in specifying a doctor.                                                        
                                                                               
SENATOR PARNELL validated that this bill does not change the fact              
that an attorney may not charge for a living will. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR             
assured him that was correct and recounted the story of Dick                   
Eliasion wife's terminal illness, and his inability to remove life             
support.                                                                       
                                                                               
TAPE 98-11, SIDE B                                                             
Number 001                                                                     
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR remarked that during a hospital banquet he found               
out that over 90 per cent of people who had a living will spent                
their last two weeks of life in the intensive care unit hooked up              
to machines. He proposed as amendment #1 that on page 4 line 25,               
the word "probably" be deleted. Without objection, it was so                   
ordered.                                                                       
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR proposed a conceptual amendment (#2) that would                
allow for the insertion of a space and appropriate language to                 
indicate donation of "any needed organ or tissue" on lines 17-18 on            
page 8. Without objection, it was so ordered.                                  
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR proposed amendment #3 to delete lines 1 through 5              
on page 8, saying in the case that someone wanted to designate a               
physician they could easily write that in. Without objection, it               
was so ordered.                                                                
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR agreed with keeping the wording as serious, and did            
not offer an amendment. SENATOR ELLIS moved CSSB 291(JUD) out of               
committee. Without objection, it was so ordered.                               

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